Lake Palmer aka Monk wrote:
That is the stuff Moxy.

And finally is it true Pendleton's affair was really found out when the sports scientist was caught sniffing the saddle... well more than the recommended daily amount.

Fred your a bone head, you say you don't know if there are lots of undetected cheats then say that you can safely assume that there is a good chance that most riders are clean.

You don't know. I don't know, stop 'safely assuming' and 'being certain' and 'at last believing'
Monk

I am not saying I am a Pro cycling expert but I am damn sure I know more than you.  Your persistant assumption that you are right is fucking tiresome.  Your persistant assumption that you are right is despite the fact that your 'evidence' is -

(1)  that I am not prepared to say I am certain about something that no-one can be certain about
(2)  your cynicism

http://news.discovery.com...france-drugs-120629.html

THE GIST
  • Recent tests show a cleaner, less-doped up cadre of cyclists for this year's Tour de France.
  • An analysis of 11 years of readings of cyclists’ reticulocytes, or newly-formed red blood cells, shows a decline.
  • Riders are pedaling slower despite lighter bikes, more aerodynamic wheels and other technological improvements.
Also - “We are to a point where climbing rates by the winners and the top 50 riders are similar to what they were in the mid-1980s, which was a time before EPO had been invented,”