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Jul 20 12 8:30 AM
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Jul 20 12 8:45 AM
Lake Palmer aka Monk wrote:'I am not saying that the TdF is clean, I'm not certain Sky are clean. But I am certain that the Tour is much much cleaner than it has ever been, and that the whole Sky set-up from top to bottom, origins to today, make it more likely Sky are clean than most other teams.' Pointless comment, you cannot be certain of anything. The advances in doping that you are not now or ever going to be privvy to mean you know fuck all. None of us on here do. If Sky have all this money it is totaly naive to think they haven't got the very latest access to 'dope'. For all we know Wiggins could have undergone gene replacement therapy. Its not impossible, he has just completed a superhuman feat by winning all those tournaments. Its never been achieved before ever. Your telling me thats due to tighter lyrca shorts. He could well be a freak of nature but you cannot say 'for certain the tour is cleaner', more likely its cleverer.
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Lake Palmer aka Monk wrote:How do you know its harder to cheat and not get caught ? You don't. So you cannot say you are certain its cleaner. Its probably eaiser to cheat and not get caught.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote:Fred's last point is the clincher. I'm not suggesting for a moment that the Tour or any other sporting event is 100% clean. Just that to automatically suspect the winner as being a doper may, at last, be unfair. Incidentally, most of the recent doping scandals in cycling have concerned events which took place in the past.
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Father Fred wrote:But I am saying that we can at last believe that there is a reasonable if not better chance that the top riders are clean.
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Lake Palmer aka Monk wrote:That is the stuff Moxy. And finally is it true Pendleton's affair was really found out when the sports scientist was caught sniffing the saddle... well more than the recommended daily amount. Fred your a bone head, you say you don't know if there are lots of undetected cheats then say that you can safely assume that there is a good chance that most riders are clean. You don't know. I don't know, stop 'safely assuming' and 'being certain' and 'at last believing'
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